Marvel decks, the crowd's data, my read

Reading EDHREC's Marvel Numbers

EDHREC counts what the table actually plays. I read the Marvel numbers deck by deck, then take every EDHREC Marvel article in turn.

EDHREC is a website that counts what cards people really play. I read the Marvel deck numbers and give my take on each one.

Fan adaptation written in Salubrious Snail's voice. Deck data from EDHREC (community aggregate, figures as recorded when fetched); card text from Scryfall. Not authored or endorsed by Salubrious Snail or EDHREC.

EDHREC is the crowd's honest answer to what a commander wants, because it counts real decklists instead of guessing. I already walked the four Marvel precons through my own upgrade lens. Here I do the other half: I read what EDHREC says the community actually runs, deck by deck, and I flag where the numbers back my swaps and where they push somewhere else. Then I take every EDHREC Marvel article in turn.

I already wrote about the four Marvel decks and how to upgrade them. Now I look at real numbers from EDHREC to see what most players do, and whether it matches my advice. Then I talk about each Marvel article on the site.

Grixis · VillainsDoom Prevails

EDHREC high-synergy cards

Chameleon, Master of DisguiseProwler, Clawed ThiefTombstone, Career CriminalNorman OsbornLoki, the DeceiverKang, Temporal TyrantContainment ConstructLethal Scheme

EDHREC most-played

Blasphemous ActToxic DelugeBlack Market ConnectionsChaos WarpTerminateMonument to Endurance

Signature card

Doom's Time Platform · 57% of decks

The high-synergy column reads like my dead-draw audit already ran. Chameleon, Prowler, Tombstone, Norman Osborn, and Loki are all Villains worth copying, which is the exact copy engine I lean on for this deck. The most-played list is a pile of clean interaction, Blasphemous Act, Toxic Deluge, Chaos Warp, and Terminate, so the crowd covers the board without adding noise, which is what I want from a Grixis deck. One card makes me smile: Monument to Endurance shows up here in the most-played, the same card I cut from a cycling deck for shortcutting the fun. In Doom it is doing honest work as card advantage, so context is everything.

EDHREC shows most Doom players run lots of villains for Loki to copy, plus clean removal spells. That is exactly the plan I described. Read my full Doom page for the swaps.

My full Doom read →

Four-color · SpellslingerThe Fantastic Four

EDHREC high-synergy cards

Valeria Richards, Precocious · 79%Cosmic Crucible · 79%Crystal, Inhuman Princess · 75%Invisible Force Field · 74%Franklin Richards, Ascendant · 74%

EDHREC most-played

Farseek · 74%Path to Exile · 70%Three Visits · 68%Annie Joins Up · 67%

Recorded decks: about 1,064

Look at the most-played and the tax I described is right there in the data. Farseek at seventy-four percent and Three Visits at sixty-eight are green ramp-fetch spells, and Path to Exile is the cheap interaction every color-hungry deck wants. The crowd is spending its early turns fixing colors and smoothing mana, which is the whole point of my manabase read. My two Talismans do the same job with cheap untapped rocks, and the EDHREC numbers say the community reaches for fetch-ramp to solve the identical problem. Both roads lead to the same place: get the colors online so the spellslinger engine can start.

EDHREC shows most Fantastic Four players run green ramp cards like Farseek to fix their colors. That is the same problem I wrote about, they just solve it with lands instead of Talismans.

My full Fantastic Four read →

My Mister Fantastic deck tech →

Jeskai · Heroes and countersAvengers Assemble

EDHREC high-synergy cards

Director Nick Fury · 95%Avengers Tower · 94%Iron Man, Armored Avenger · 92%War Machine, Avenging Arsenal · 91%She-Hulk, Wallbreaker

EDHREC most-played

Swords to Plowshares · 90%Shang-Chi and the Ten Rings · 80%Captain America, Living Legend · 79%

Recorded decks: about 2,399 · themes: +1/+1 counters, Heroes, Legends

Director Nick Fury at ninety-five percent is about as close to unanimous as EDHREC gets, and it confirms the two-headed engine I described: Captain America hands out the counters, Nick Fury keeps the Heroes coming. The theme tags are +1/+1 counters and Heroes, which is the legible go-wide plan a newer pilot can follow. Swords to Plowshares at ninety percent is the clean one-card answer that keeps the board readable, exactly the kind of single-effect removal I argued for over fiddly recurring loops. The crowd built the deck I said it wanted to be.

Almost every Avengers deck on EDHREC runs Director Nick Fury with Captain America. That is the two-part engine I described, heroes plus counters. My Avengers page has the swaps.

My full Avengers read →

My Captain America deck tech →

Selesnya · Vibranium voltronWakanda Forever

EDHREC high-synergy cards

Hammer of Nazahn · 82%Dispatch · 80%Helm of the Host · 77%Shuri, the Black PantherZuri, Warrior of Wakanda

EDHREC most-played

Birds of Paradise · 80%Beast Within · 72%Nature's Lore · 71%Wakanda Forever! · 60%

Signature card

Vibranium Strike Gauntlets · 83% of decks

The crowd builds T'Challa as artifact voltron, and the numbers make the identity plain. Vibranium Strike Gauntlets in eighty-three percent of decks, Hammer of Nazahn at eighty-two, and Helm of the Host at seventy-seven are all big artifacts that suit up a threat and, at four mana or more, feed T'Challa's counter trigger. That is the Vibranium-and-counters plan I said to protect, and it is why I put Verdurous Gearhulk into this deck: it is a five-mana artifact that triggers the commander and brings its own four counters. The EDHREC data votes for the same axis, artifacts that both arm your board and grow T'Challa.

Most T'Challa decks on EDHREC use big artifacts like Hammer of Nazahn and Helm of the Host. Those help the counters plan I wrote about. See my Wakanda page for the swaps.

My full Wakanda read →

Grixis · Clones and VillainsLoki, the Deceiver

EDHREC high-synergy cards

Tombstone, Career Criminal · 86%Chameleon, Master of Disguise · 82%Prowler, Clawed Thief · 69%Doctor Octopus, Master Planner · 68%

EDHREC most-played

Chaos Warp · 64%Taskmaster, Mercenary Mimic · 59%Blasphemous Act · 59%Black Market Connections · 58%

Recorded decks: about 1,263 · signature: Baron Strucker 79%, Loki's Scepter 74% · themes: Clones, Villains, Connive

Loki is the Doom box's second commander, and the crowd builds him as his own clones-and-villains deck instead of a Doom splash. The high-synergy column overlaps Doom's almost exactly, Tombstone, Chameleon, and Prowler again, which tells me the pile of Villains worth copying is the real spine of the whole box. Baron Strucker at seventy-nine percent and Loki's Scepter at seventy-four are the copy payoffs, and Chaos Warp plus Blasphemous Act keep the board honest. I wrote the copy engine up in full as its own deck tech.

Loki is the second Doom commander, built to copy villains. Most Loki decks run the same villains as Doom, so the copy plan is the heart of the box.

My Loki deck tech →

Dimir · Connive controlKang, Temporal Tyrant

EDHREC high-synergy cards

Leader, Super-Genius · 70%Construct a Cosmic Cube · 65%Baron Strucker, HYDRA Overlord · 61%Gixian Puppeteer · 47%Kid Loki · 45%

EDHREC most-played

Counterspell · 52%Frantic Search · 47%Arcane Denial · 43%Ledger Shredder · 42%Dark Ritual · 40%

Recorded decks: about 77 · themes: connive, villains, card draw

Kang is the niche pick, only seventy-seven decks on record, and the crowd builds him as a Dimir connive-control deck. The most-played list is a wall of counters and card draw, Counterspell, Arcane Denial, and Frantic Search, which is a very different engine from Doom's discard drain. That is the point I keep making about this box: pick the engine and build it fully. Kang wants to durdle and draw, so give him the interaction and let the aggression sit in the Doom pile.

Kang is a rare pick with only 77 decks. Players build him as a slow control deck with counters and card draw, a different plan from Doom.

My Kang deck tech →

Every EDHREC Marvel articleMy take, one by one

These are the Marvel articles on EDHREC as I found them. I am not reprinting anyone's writing; each line is my own read of the topic, grounded in the numbers above.

Building Villain Typal with Loki, the Deceiver

Loki shows up in Doom's high-synergy column for a reason. The Villain-typal build this article explores is the same copy engine I lean on: the more Villains worth copying you run, the better Loki's attack looks, and the more Doom's discard drain has to work with. My one rule for it, run bodies that are worth copying twice over.

This article is about building around Loki by playing lots of villains. That is the copy engine from my Doom page.

Top 10 Suspend Enablers for Kang Prime

Kang, Temporal Tyrant is one of the box's alternate villains and turns up in Doom's high-synergy list too. A suspend and time-counters subtheme is a genuinely different engine from the discard drain, so my advice is to pick one and build it fully. A half-hearted suspend package inside a discard deck is exactly the kind of split focus that leaves you drawing dead.

This one is about Kang and time-counter cards. It is a different plan than Doom's discard, so pick one and go all in.

The Over/Under: Predicting the Popularity of Marvel Commanders, Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3

These pieces bet on which Marvel commanders the community would actually build. The deck counts settle the wagers, and the numbers I read above are the receipts: Captain America near twenty-four hundred decks, T'Challa around two thousand, Mister Fantastic close to eleven hundred. Popularity and power are different signals, so a commander can be widely built and still be a middling deck, which is worth remembering before you read a big deck count as a strong deck.

These articles guessed which Marvel commanders would be popular. The real deck counts answer it. Popular does not always mean powerful.

Powerful Paradoxes with Karolina Dean, Runaway

Karolina Dean is off the four-precon path, a build-around from the wider Marvel set. I have not run her numbers the way I ran the precons, so I will not pretend to a hot take here. She is on the list because the article is Marvel, and I would want the EDHREC data in front of me before I said a word about the deck.

This article is about a different Marvel card, Karolina Dean. I have not studied her deck yet, so I am only pointing you to it.

The through-lineThe crowd mostly agrees with the swaps

Read the numbers first, then decide. When my upgrade lens and the community's most-played lists point the same way, that is a good sign the plan is real.

Across all four precons, EDHREC's data lines up with the reads I already wrote: Villains and clean removal for Doom, fetch-ramp fixing for the Fantastic Four, the Nick Fury counters engine for the Avengers, and artifact voltron for T'Challa. Where the crowd differs, it is usually solving the same problem with different hardware, green ramp instead of Talismans for the four-color mana, for example. The data gives you a second opinion, and here it mostly backs the plan.

For all four decks, the EDHREC numbers match the advice I gave. When the crowd and my swaps agree, that is a good sign the plan works.

Sources. Community deck data from EDHREC commander pages (Doctor Doom, Mister Fantastic, Captain America Team Leader, T'Challa), figures as recorded when fetched. Articles are linked by title above; their text is not reproduced. Card names and text via Scryfall (Marvel Super Heroes Commander). My upgrade reads: the four on one page. This is my own analysis of public EDHREC data, written in Salubrious Snail's voice. Neither Salubrious Snail nor EDHREC authored or endorsed it.